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[00:00:50] <Marzo> 115.49MB from US
[00:01:14] <Marzo> 37 downloads of Keyring mod, 33 of SI Fixes
[00:01:32] <Marzo> Hm
[00:01:39] <Marzo> I think that the stats must be wrong
[00:01:59] <Marzo> The sheer number of reloads I did when testing the site should have skewed the results towards Brasil
[00:02:13] <Crysta> ok.. now to upload this mess
[00:02:20] <SleepingDragon> you lie
[00:02:21] <SleepingDragon> d
[00:02:32] <SleepingDragon> you said you wouldnt use much bandwidth :P
[00:02:42] <Marzo> I thought I wouldn't
[00:02:46] <Marzo> :-)
[00:02:57] <Marzo> Evidently, I was wrong :-)
[00:03:53] <Marzo> In december, there were 17 unique visitors so far
[00:03:56] <Marzo> 5.59MB
[00:04:20] <Marzo> 4.52 from US
[00:04:37] <Marzo> None from Brasil
[00:04:39] <Marzo> Hm
[00:05:05] <Marzo> I think that the stats may be lumping me in the US category for some reason
[00:05:57] <Crysta> sorry.. now photobucket is being a pain again
[00:07:00] <Marzo> OK, the stats are definitelly not recognizing the fact that I am connecting from Brasil
[00:07:42] <SleepingDragon> marzo
[00:07:55] <Marzo> What?
[00:08:05] <SleepingDragon> it only shows up if you ISP identifies as from that country
[00:08:07] <SleepingDragon> many dont
[00:09:22] <SleepingDragon> marzo "com" pretty much ends up meaning "misc"
[00:09:31] <Crysta> damnation.. stupid photobucket
[00:10:05] <Marzo> Just did a track in my IP and it resulted in Palo Alto, California
[00:10:17] <SleepingDragon> see?
[00:10:18] <SleepingDragon> :)
[00:10:20] <Marzo> The rest of the info is correct, though
[00:10:22] <Marzo> http://visualtracking.symantec.com/vt_main.asp?productid=nis2003&langid=br&venid=sym&go=
[00:11:44] <Marzo> So I wonder how badly I skewed last month's results in favor of US while I was building the site :-)
[00:11:50] <Crysta> 5 more to upload then i get the links
[00:12:17] <Marzo> (and what is the strangest is that earlier tracks in my IP resulted in the correct city in Brasil)
[00:12:34] <Marzo> I guess my ISP changed the way they do things
[00:12:36] <SleepingDragon> lol
[00:12:42] * SleepingDragon tries
[00:12:48] <Marzo> lol
[00:12:54] <SleepingDragon> marzo theyre probably using a proxy
[00:13:05] <SleepingDragon> that happens to be in cali :)
[00:13:15] <Marzo> Possibly
[00:13:35] <Marzo> A very *fast* proxy, it must be
[00:13:49] * Marzo tries
[00:14:03] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/tseramed_face.png
[00:14:08] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/trellek_gumpage_1.gif
[00:14:13] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/spiked_shld.gif
[00:14:16] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/spellbook.gif
[00:14:21] <SleepingDragon> ooh
[00:14:21] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/spark_paperdoll.gif
[00:14:24] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/spark_face.png
[00:14:26] <SleepingDragon> crystas isp is mysetious
[00:14:29] <SleepingDragon> only gives node name
[00:14:31] <SleepingDragon> lol
[00:14:34] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/shldbkcsnexam.gif
[00:14:38] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/serp_arrow1.gif
[00:14:42] <Crysta> i use verizon
[00:14:47] <Crysta> but have good security
[00:14:52] <Crysta> or at least decent
[00:14:59] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/portrait_set.gif
[00:15:03] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/orandress_next.gif
[00:15:06] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/ol_swampies.gif
[00:15:09] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/oilflask_sidepack.gif
[00:15:17] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/oil_flask.gif
[00:15:20] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/maleshoes.gif
[00:15:23] <SleepingDragon> crysta that has nothing to do with trace results
[00:15:23] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/male_shirt.gif
[00:15:31] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/male_dress_2b.gif
[00:15:37] <Crysta> really
[00:15:39] <Crysta> didnt know that
[00:15:44] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/male_dress_1b.gif
[00:15:46] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/male_cloth_hoods.gif
[00:15:49] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/magebanesheath.gif
[00:15:53] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/M_Musket_NoHand.gif
[00:16:33] <Crysta> waiting for the next page to load.. sorry but it had to be all seperate links
[00:16:41] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/m_avatar_costume.gif
[00:16:44] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/lovearrow.gif
[00:16:47] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/lightning_whip.gif
[00:16:51] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/katrina_face.png
[00:16:55] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/juliarface.png
[00:16:58] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/fem_shoes.gif
[00:17:01] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/fem_shirtage.gif
[00:17:04] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/fem_pantsage.gif
[00:17:09] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/fem_cloth_hoods.gif
[00:17:12] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/fem_avatar_costume_2a.gif
[00:17:15] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/F_Musket_NoHand.gif
[00:17:17] <SleepingDragon> woah
[00:17:18] <SleepingDragon> oay
[00:17:19] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/Ether_Gem.gif
[00:17:23] <SleepingDragon> hold on a sec
[00:17:26] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/cleaverage.gif
[00:17:29] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/bluedress_next.gif
[00:17:32] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/amuletsrings.gif
[00:17:34] <SleepingDragon> or dont
[00:17:37] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Ultima%20sprites/aefdsfwdsgfd.gif
[00:17:39] <Crysta> sorry
[00:17:42] <Crysta> were only those 5 left
[00:17:43] <Crysta> lol
[00:17:46] <Crysta> thats all of them
[00:17:54] * SleepingDragon pat pats ExultBot reassuringly
[00:17:56] <Crysta> well
[00:18:03] <Crysta> other than my petra fixes
[00:18:09] <Crysta> but thats SI and not bg
[00:19:04] <SleepingDragon> heh
[00:19:46] <Crysta> so yeah.. sorry again for the link overload
[00:20:54] <Marzo> Just to be sure I didn't miss any: that would be a total of 36 images, right?
[00:21:06] <Crysta> one sec, let me count
[00:21:06] <Crysta> lol
[00:21:17] <Crysta> oh wait.. it gives one
[00:21:20] <Crysta> yes, 36
[00:21:21] <Crysta> lol
[00:21:28] <Marzo> lol
[00:21:31] <Marzo> k, good
[00:21:33] <Crysta> were a few i didnt need to throw in there im sure
[00:21:53] <Marzo> Now to convert them all to U7 palette, break them up in appropriate frames and test the offsets in-game
[00:22:10] <Crysta> the katrina tseramed spark and julia faces are berty's
[00:22:16] <Marzo> k
[00:22:18] <SleepingDragon> hmm without the sleeves
[00:22:24] <Crysta> i edited the julia ones so the pigtails could fit
[00:22:28] <SleepingDragon> the "male dresses" would make good tabards
[00:22:29] <Crysta> whats without te sleeves
[00:22:33] <Crysta> ah
[00:22:36] <Crysta> well
[00:22:42] <Crysta> the other version would make better
[00:22:58] <Marzo> They could well do the job of robes
[00:23:05] <Crysta> the other uses the "miniskirt" on the female avatar costume
[00:23:33] <Crysta> remember i didnt want to have full dresses on the guys at first :p
[00:24:31] <Marzo> Turning on some 'work' music
[00:24:36] <Marzo> And on to work
[00:24:37] <Crysta> lol
[00:24:47] <Crysta> the avatar suits will obviously be trouble
[00:25:03] <Marzo> I am not so sure
[00:25:19] <Marzo> Oh, you mean because of the cloak?
[00:25:23] <Crysta> uh.. the rings are there because the ones in the game data have random semitransparent lines running against them
[00:25:33] <Crysta> well.. all of the parts.. lol
[00:25:45] <Marzo> :-)
[00:25:55] <Marzo> Well, faces first
[00:26:02] <Crysta> it IS just supposed to use the shirt slot after all
[00:26:15] <Crysta> katrina might have some trouble with the hair
[00:26:26] <Crysta> and i couldnt find the sentri one i had
[00:26:27] <SleepingDragon> should be fine Crysta
[00:26:33] <SleepingDragon> I have the katrina one ingame
[00:26:38] <Crysta> julia looked better before :(
[00:26:39] <SleepingDragon> on my comp
[00:26:47] <Crysta> hm
[00:26:52] <Marzo> Send it to me then
[00:27:06] <SleepingDragon> yeah I could do that
[00:27:11] <Crysta> lol
[00:27:27] <Marzo> "yeah I could do that"?
[00:27:33] <Marzo> :-p
[00:27:37] <SleepingDragon> could
[00:27:39] <SleepingDragon> might
[00:27:43] <Crysta> i think he means he "could" .. but "will" he?
[00:27:43] <SleepingDragon> some point in the future
[00:28:00] <Marzo> That is why I repeated his question
[00:28:14] <SleepingDragon> Im afraid first you need to file a motion to form a committe to discuss the changes to the process of editing the request for a file
[00:28:19] <Marzo> I wonder how he would respond if I said I "could" help with the TFL usecode :-)
[00:29:20] <Crysta> lol
[00:32:57] <SleepingDragon> I'd porbably do something having to do with @op
[00:32:59] <SleepingDragon> :D
[00:38:03] <Marzo> :-)
[00:38:27] * Marzo tries to remember what would happen if he tried to kick SleepingDragon off the channel :-p
[00:40:19] <Crysta> lol
[00:40:30] <SleepingDragon> fire
[00:40:33] <SleepingDragon> brimstone
[00:40:34] <SleepingDragon> columns
[00:40:37] <SleepingDragon> death of origin
[00:40:43] <SleepingDragon> yknow the fun stuff :D
[00:40:51] <Marzo> lol
[00:41:02] <Marzo> (I liked the references)
[00:42:41] <SleepingDragon> hehe
[00:45:31] <Crysta> lol
[00:51:15] <Marzo> Julia's and Katrina's faces are in-game now
[00:51:32] <Marzo> And they both are marked improvements
[00:53:10] <Crysta> lol
[00:53:19] <Crysta> yup
[00:54:12] <SleepingDragon> commit
[00:54:26] <Marzo> Wait
[00:54:35] <Marzo> I'll upload it to the Exult CVS
[00:54:47] <Marzo> You know, let everyone benefit from it?
[00:55:43] <SleepingDragon> pssh
[00:55:57] <SleepingDragon> Let them eat cake :D
[00:58:09] <Crysta> lol
[01:01:57] <Marzo> Poor Tseramed also got a much needed facelift
[01:02:06] <Marzo> The old portrait was *dreadful*
[01:02:10] * Marzo shudders
[01:02:15] <Crysta> lol
[01:02:26] <Marzo> I am serious
[01:02:39] <Marzo> Look at it in-game and you will see it
[01:02:55] <Crysta> oh i know
[01:03:39] <SleepingDragon> i hereby dub thee captain obvious
[01:04:07] <Marzo> Obviously, you must now explain what are the obvious powers or Captain Obvious
[01:04:10] <Marzo> :-p
[01:07:03] <Crysta> lol
[01:07:22] <SleepingDragon> olo
[01:07:30] <Marzo> lol
[01:07:53] <SleepingDragon> |o|
[01:08:52] <Marzo> Wow, Spark surely is buffed up
[01:09:26] <Marzo> It is sad that the improvement he needs most isn't possible under the current engine
[01:09:43] <Crysta> actually it is.. jsut requires a lot of redrawing
[01:09:56] <SleepingDragon> are you volunteering?
[01:10:02] <Crysta> in the range of "thousands of frames"
[01:10:02] <Marzo> Speaking from someone that knows how things are done... no, it is not possible
[01:10:08] <Crysta> really
[01:10:18] <Crysta> then how come they said all they really needed was the art before
[01:10:24] <Marzo> You can draw all the frames you want, it will still need an engine rewrite
[01:10:43] <Marzo> Because there is no point in doing the engine rewrite without having the art?
[01:11:05] <Crysta> ah
[01:11:09] <Crysta> makes sense
[01:11:24] <Marzo> Well, at least the gump will look better
[01:11:24] <Crysta> is the alternative i suggested back then at all feasible?
[01:11:33] <Marzo> What was it?
[01:11:49] <Crysta> you see the static paperdoll in the set of images i uploaded?
[01:11:58] <Marzo> Yes
[01:12:18] <Crysta> my suggestion was get the game to display his as a BG paperdoll using that when SI paperdolls are on
[01:12:29] <Marzo> Hm
[01:12:32] <Marzo> It is an idea
[01:12:39] <Crysta> at least that way he wont be grossly misproportioned
[01:13:05] <Crysta> the body and head were by berty.. the clothes i ddrew for the purpose of what it was
[01:13:10] <Marzo> In any case, I have just thought of a way to do the engine rewrite easier
[01:13:17] <Crysta> lol
[01:13:20] <Crysta> that was fast
[01:13:30] <Marzo> Not that fast
[01:13:37] <SleepingDragon> moo
[01:13:46] <Marzo> It will be made when I make the gump manager, which will be a lot of work
[01:13:54] <Crysta> ah
[01:14:11] <Marzo> I had an idea which I can implement then which will simplify this sort of things
[01:14:44] <Marzo> Basically, a way to specify the 'base' way that paperdolls are drawn and a way to override it for specific shapes
[01:15:05] <Crysta> ahh
[01:15:34] <Marzo> That way, children (such as Spark and any others that mod-makers add) as well as odd creatures (such as Trellek and maybe golems or sea monsters) can be done
[01:15:49] <Marzo> *done by specifying the alternate paperdolls
[01:16:07] <Crysta> ah :D
[01:16:32] <Marzo> Of course, the specification of the way the paperdoll is going to be drawn would be the hard part
[01:16:56] <Marzo> But even the odd gump for Trellek could be used in this way
[01:17:17] <SleepingDragon> and handling 100+ inventory items across different presentations would be hard too
[01:17:33] <Marzo> That would be the problem of custom art
[01:17:45] <Marzo> It would be the modder's problem, as such
[01:18:02] <SleepingDragon> Marzo: I suggest ducking before Crysta clubs you :D
[01:18:34] <Crysta> why would i club him?
[01:18:44] <Marzo> In any case, not all items are appropriate for all creatures -- I don't see (e.g.) stone golems wearing armor
[01:18:57] <SleepingDragon> heh
[01:18:59] <Marzo> Or even Trellek, for that matter
[01:19:12] <SleepingDragon> poor bobbits....
[01:19:17] <Marzo> :-)
[01:19:25] <Crysta> i dunno
[01:19:30] <Crysta> id say he's a fuzzy
[01:19:41] <Marzo> A case could even be made for Spark, unless we added custom-fit armor to the game
[01:20:05] <Marzo> Faces being added, now is the time for all the other items
[01:20:16] <Crysta> k
[01:20:34] <Marzo> I think I will go with more faces -- the avatar portraits, to be accurate
[01:21:12] <Crysta> mm
[01:21:24] <Marzo> What?
[01:21:27] <Crysta> the ones that have been in there since forever have always bothered me
[01:21:47] <Crysta> i mean i love having the options.. but .. hey just look bad now
[01:21:59] <Marzo> Well, unless the conversion to the U7 palette is graceful, they might stick around for a bit more :-)
[01:22:02] * Marzo ducks
[01:22:14] <Crysta> it should already be in the u7 palette
[01:22:24] <Marzo> I am thinking of ways to expand the number of options available in the future
[01:22:28] <SleepingDragon> Marzo whats the pallette fetish about? :P
[01:22:30] <Crysta> if it isnt then i forgot to set it.. but i assure you it was before
[01:22:44] * Marzo will believe it when he sees it
[01:22:56] <Crysta> lol
[01:23:00] <Crysta> hey.. i try.. :[
[01:23:06] <SleepingDragon> Its easy to make sure you use the palette in PS
[01:23:07] <Crysta> have i been wrong about it before?
[01:23:10] <Marzo> (similar to WizardryDragon's Usecode IDE)
[01:23:11] <SleepingDragon> just set to indexed color mode
[01:23:13] * Marzo ducks
[01:23:32] <Crysta> i have the proper palette saved still
[01:23:33] <SleepingDragon> and set the pallette to u7.pal
[01:23:37] <Crysta> i always make sure to use it
[01:24:09] * Marzo doesn't remember 'Crysta' and 'U7 Palette' being too often in the same sentence
[01:24:12] <Marzo> :-)
[01:24:14] <Crysta> but i guess i could be wrong :|
[01:24:22] <Marzo> In this case, they were
[01:24:34] <Crysta> name me a case when they werent
[01:24:42] <Marzo> Now only to split them up then rejoin them
[01:25:00] <Marzo> :-)
[01:25:18] <Crysta> hope it doesnt give any trouble :\
[01:25:18] <Marzo> Oh, wait -- I am starting to mix people up
[01:25:26] <Crysta> lol..
[01:25:40] <Marzo> It was *WizardryDragon* who never converted things to the proper palette
[01:25:46] <Crysta> ....
[01:25:48] <Crysta> lol...
[01:25:55] <Crysta> er.. that is..
[01:26:06] <Crysta> *runs*
[01:26:09] <Marzo> (I *knew* it was a fellow TFL teammate...)
[01:26:21] <SleepingDragon> Marzo: Yes I did
[01:26:28] <SleepingDragon> I always have it on u7.pal
[01:27:09] <Crysta> there was a period at the start of like.. a month where i didnt
[01:27:14] <Crysta> you might be remembering that
[01:27:23] <Crysta> in fact
[01:27:25] <Marzo> It might be
[01:27:32] <Crysta> it was brought up when i made taht set of portrait conversions
[01:27:36] <Crysta> lol
[01:27:41] <Crysta> by you even im pretty sure
[01:27:46] <SleepingDragon> I dont do art for TFL often
[01:27:53] <SleepingDragon> But I do it right when I do, thankee :P
[01:27:56] <Crysta> since then ive used it every single time
[01:28:24] <Crysta> my job is easy... i figure i should do what i can to make the real work a bit easier :x
[01:50:52] <Marzo> Urgh
[01:51:01] <Crysta> ?
[01:51:05] <Crysta> problems?
[01:51:06] <SleepingDragon> Hrgu
[01:51:12] <Marzo> The new portraits won't have nowhere near the same definition in the introduction as during the game
[01:51:27] <Crysta> .. huh?
[01:51:37] <Marzo> The intro palette doesn't have the neccessary colors
[01:51:38] <SleepingDragon> the intro pallete is icky
[01:51:42] <Crysta> ack :x
[01:51:53] <Crysta> well.. i guess thats livable at least
[01:52:00] <Crysta> in game they'll work fine, right?
[01:52:10] <Marzo> Yes
[01:52:21] <Marzo> The least affected is the blonde male avatar
[01:52:28] <Crysta> is there a way to get the engine to display the images independently of the game?
[01:52:43] <Marzo> The blonde and brunette females look relativelly OK
[01:52:49] <Marzo> The other ones... urgh
[01:53:10] <Marzo> I am thinking of shipping a better palette in Exult
[01:53:31] <Crysta> im guessing that would be why they werent updated yet
[01:53:47] <Marzo> The black avatars look like they have... what is that disease... vitiligo or something? Dunno what is the english name
[01:53:53] <Crysta> lol
[01:54:00] <Crysta> i dont remember the name but i know what you mean
[01:54:06] <Marzo> Yeah
[01:54:40] <Crysta> ouch
[01:54:44] <Marzo> I think I will keep the old portraits for now
[01:54:53] <SleepingDragon> moo
[01:54:54] <Crysta> sounds ok
[01:54:56] <Marzo> For the intro
[01:55:10] <Marzo> The palette limitations make the new ones look worse, if that is possible
[01:55:15] <Crysta> lol
[01:55:23] <Crysta> i know.. freaky aint it
[01:55:42] <Crysta> sorry about that.. i never even considered that being a problem
[01:56:06] <Marzo> The thing is that SI had a palette geared for the portraits
[01:56:10] <SleepingDragon> marzo
[01:56:14] <Marzo> Shoot
[01:56:16] <Crysta> that it did
[01:56:20] <SleepingDragon> get rid of the pallete limitations on the intro
[01:56:25] <Marzo> :-)
[01:56:26] <SleepingDragon> or have it use a STANDARD template
[01:56:32] <Crysta> would the SI one work on the two base BG ones?
[01:56:40] <Marzo> That would require redoing several graphics
[01:56:41] <SleepingDragon> One way to find out
[01:56:45] <Crysta> the SI palette on the base portraits
[01:56:51] <Crysta> for bg
[01:56:54] <Marzo> I don't know
[01:57:06] <Marzo> But the intro text would be colored differently
[01:57:16] <Crysta> would it be possible to get it to switch palettes for the intro and title screen?
[01:57:27] <Marzo> Nope
[01:57:32] <Crysta> well there goes that idea
[01:57:33] <Crysta> lol
[01:57:43] <Marzo> They use the same palette -- the U7 logo would go down in flames
[01:57:53] <Marzo> (as well as the text color)
[01:57:54] <Crysta> best not to risk screwing up the intro to bg
[01:57:57] <SleepingDragon> you could
[01:58:07] <SleepingDragon> it would just involved tedious colour reindexing
[01:58:30] <Crysta> would be more work than reward that way tho, wouldnt it
[01:58:39] <Marzo> I will leave it to that mythical time in the future when shapes will independently specify their palettes :-)
[01:59:00] <Crysta> k.. lol
[01:59:18] <Marzo> The color reindexing wouldn't be much of a problem with the right tools for the job
[01:59:26] <SleepingDragon> Ah
[01:59:28] <Crysta> yeah but right now
[01:59:31] <SleepingDragon> Sounds like a volunteer
[01:59:36] <Crysta> lol
[01:59:51] <Marzo> For example, it took me more time to extract the required palette from intropal.dat than to convert the colors of the intro portraits
[02:00:06] <Crysta> hm
[02:00:26] <Marzo> (using the Gimp plug-in and recoloring all the portraits in the shape)
[02:02:40] <SleepingDragon> hmm
[02:02:45] <SleepingDragon> ah the bugs of Fallout 2
[02:10:05] <Crysta> er.. marzo.. i just noticed that on the male blue dress i left the leg pouch thing on by accident
[02:10:09] <Crysta> and its blue
[02:10:15] <Marzo> k
[02:10:16] <Crysta> might need to remove it
[02:10:35] <Crysta> in my defense that problem was probably there quite some time ago and i never noticed
[02:16:16] <Marzo> OK, the new portraits look good in the game -- now
[02:16:53] <Marzo> I had to reconvert them to the U7 palette without the last colors (which are cycling colors) and tweak them a bit to get them to look right
[02:17:01] <Marzo> But they look much better now
[02:18:25] <Marzo> Now, onto the ether gem
[02:19:06] <Crysta> im not really sure on the feasiblity of that one
[02:19:21] <Crysta> it was more of an experiment on my behalf
[02:19:24] <Marzo> I will have to look into that
[02:19:52] <Marzo> You wouldn't happen to know which shape/frame the ether gem is, would you?
[02:20:12] <Crysta> not offhand im afraid
[02:20:34] <Marzo> The ether gem is that one which LB gives at the start of FoV?
[02:20:40] <Crysta> i should have a save somewhere with it tho
[02:20:47] <Crysta> no its the one in the dragon's mouth
[02:20:49] <Marzo> The one which shows the Island of Fire when double-clicked?
[02:20:53] <Marzo> Oh
[02:21:03] <Crysta> the one you actually need to have in your hand
[02:21:03] <Crysta> lol
[02:21:27] <Marzo> I can probably discover which one it is, then, by using god mode and going to Dracothraxus
[02:21:39] <Crysta> yeah
[02:22:00] <Marzo> Done
[02:22:17] <Crysta> same.. lol
[02:22:24] <Crysta> figured id try too just in case :p
[02:22:41] <Marzo> There are actually two frames for which it might be useful
[02:22:56] <Crysta> one without the aura one with?
[02:23:00] <Marzo> (it changes the frame when you bind Arcadion in it)
[02:23:08] <Crysta> :)
[02:23:09] <Marzo> No
[02:23:14] <Crysta> oh
[02:23:15] <Marzo> The two are identical
[02:23:30] <Marzo> The one with the aura is the one LB gives to you
[02:23:31] <Crysta> really.. coulda sworn it gained a shifting palette
[02:23:50] <Marzo> It does, indeed
[02:23:55] <Crysta> yeah but the LB one is a diamond so it would need a color change
[02:23:55] <Marzo> (now that I tested it)
[02:23:58] <Crysta> ah :D
[02:24:09] <Crysta> well ill do a recolor for you for the diamond as well
[02:24:16] <Marzo> Shouldn't make much difference in terms of paperdoll, though
[02:24:22] <Crysta> yeah
[02:24:37] <Crysta> but i really like going for detail
[02:24:43] <Crysta> plus, theres also the other gem
[02:25:04] <Crysta> the one from the keyring mod.. you never really need to hold it.. but would be interesting to have it there if you chose to
[02:25:18] <Marzo> :-)
[02:25:23] <Marzo> True
[02:25:27] <Crysta> so.. two recolors.. white and yellow :P
[02:25:41] <Marzo> And since you are offering to make all these paperdolls... :-)
[02:25:53] <Crysta> yes i am.. lol..
[02:26:06] <Crysta> it shouldnt be much work so ill get it done now
[02:26:15] <Marzo> The ether gem paperdoll you sent has 3 frames, right?
[02:26:29] <Marzo> One for each hand, and the third?
[02:26:33] <Crysta> technically 4.. they were different for male and female hands
[02:26:39] <Marzo> Oh
[02:27:01] <Crysta> the hands are shaped differently
[02:27:08] <Crysta> the 3rd is the base one for both hands
[02:27:22] <Crysta> the other two were designed for teh aura to surround te hand holding it
[02:27:29] <Marzo> So I can ignore the one which doesn't have the glow
[02:27:41] <Crysta> if you want, yeah :)
[02:27:45] <Marzo> :-)
[02:28:02] <Crysta> remember you need to have teh empty gem in your hand to free arcadion tho
[02:28:15] <Marzo> Yeah
[02:28:31] <Marzo> Maybe I'll use the non-glowing gem for the empty gem
[02:28:42] <Marzo> And the glowing gems for the Arcadion gem
[02:28:46] <Crysta> that wa my idea when i made the thing
[02:28:55] <Crysta> i didnt know how well it would work in use tho
[02:29:10] <Marzo> That remains to be seen
[02:29:42] <Crysta> half of the time when an idea doesnt work you can blame the overimaginitive artist behind it
[02:29:48] <Crysta> lol
[02:29:49] <Marzo> :-)
[02:30:03] * Marzo prepares to blame Crysta if it doesn't work
[02:30:05] <Marzo> :-)
[02:30:10] <Crysta> lol
[02:32:45] <Marzo> Which frame is the male and which is the female?
[02:33:11] <Crysta> its been so long that i dont remember.. give me a minute i should have mockups saved somewhere
[02:34:50] <Crysta> found it.. uploading
[02:35:40] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Imaewfwege14.gif
[02:36:03] <Marzo> k, I guessed right
[02:36:07] <Crysta> looks like i left them in the same arrangement.. lol
[02:42:41] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Seeing_Gem.gif
[02:42:43] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/Power_Gem.gif
[02:43:10] <Crysta> the aura positioning is the same as the other gem.. but i pushed the female one out farther to the right to accomodate the bigger gem size
[02:43:17] <Marzo> You haven't made frames for the right hand, have you?
[02:43:40] <Crysta> i couldnt... it would basically be the hand glowing :\
[02:43:41] <Marzo> Or left hand...
[02:43:47] <Marzo> thought so
[02:44:11] <Crysta> however it doesnt really have to be in the right hand to show as being there, does it?
[02:44:15] <Marzo> I will make it so Exult doesn't display the paperdoll, but the gem as-is instead
[02:44:52] <Crysta> so the gem graphics were a failed experiment then?:p
[02:44:58] <Marzo> It doesn't, true, but might be confusing
[02:45:09] <Crysta> yeah.. it could
[02:45:23] <Crysta> is it possible to force teh item to equip to te proper hand?
[02:45:37] <Marzo> In the paperdoll's right hand (the one in the left side of the screen), it works very well
[02:45:43] <Marzo> No
[02:46:05] <Crysta> it has to be in the right to work i think at least
[02:46:11] <Marzo> Nope
[02:46:16] <Marzo> Or...
[02:46:18] <Marzo> maybe...
[02:46:23] <Marzo> Let me check
[02:46:29] <Crysta> the ether gem has to be in a specific hand
[02:46:34] <Crysta> i thin kright to smash the mirror
[02:46:40] <Crysta> and left to bind the sword
[02:46:52] <Crysta> but tis been a while
[02:46:54] <Crysta> i could be wrong
[02:47:19] <Crysta> im pretty sure on the mirror at least since the right hand is the one that punches it
[02:47:35] <Marzo> In the mirror, it must be in the right hand
[02:47:40] <Marzo> (just checked)
[02:47:45] <Crysta> :)
[02:47:51] <Crysta> but what about binding it
[02:48:05] <Crysta> oh.. wait.. i think binding doesnt work regardless with paperdolls on now that i think about it
[02:48:13] <Crysta> or at least it didnt last time i tried
[02:48:23] <Crysta> i seem to remember having to turn SI paperdolls off to get it to work
[02:48:27] <Marzo> It should work regardless
[02:48:49] <Crysta> i know.. lol.. is why i remember it so well
[02:48:59] <Crysta> another thing i could be wrong on of course :P
[02:50:21] <Marzo> For the bond, the sword and gem can be in either hand
[02:50:30] <Crysta> ahh
[02:50:35] <Crysta> well it works out well then
[02:50:47] <Marzo> What does?
[02:50:49] <Crysta> so right hand would be the paperdoll and left would be the normal sprite right?
[02:50:56] <Crysta> wel;ll i thought it had to be specific :p
[02:51:02] <Marzo> Yes
[02:51:06] <Crysta> this way you can just leave it in the right hand to get it looking cool
[02:51:17] <Crysta> or have it in the other without it affecting anything
[02:51:20] <Marzo> You *could* make the glowing-hand sprite for the other hand too
[02:51:29] <Crysta> i might
[02:51:41] <Marzo> (except that the sword and gem would display in the same place)
[02:51:47] <Crysta> lol
[02:52:08] <Crysta> the sword blank doesnt have a paperdoll sprite though, does it?
[02:52:13] <Crysta> unless you mean something else
[02:52:55] <Marzo> Hm
[02:53:02] <Marzo> Nah, it would be too much
[02:53:10] <Crysta> lol
[02:53:12] <Crysta> yeah
[02:53:16] <Marzo> Make blank sword paperdolls
[02:53:21] <Marzo> Too much
[02:53:21] <Crysta> and totally unneeded
[02:53:34] <Marzo> Strictly speaking, the gem paperdolls are unneeded
[02:53:40] <Crysta> yeah
[02:53:53] <Crysta> like i said a few minutes ago it was just an experiment
[02:53:54] <Crysta> lol
[02:53:56] <Marzo> I think I'll leave it for last
[02:54:00] <Crysta> alright :)
[02:54:55] <Crysta> or second to last
[02:55:08] <Crysta> i somehow think the avatar costumes would fit the "last" slot better
[02:55:28] <Marzo> :-)
[02:55:31] <Crysta> due to sheer complexity.. lol
[02:55:46] <Marzo> Not really
[02:55:53] <Marzo> Although it might be best
[02:55:56] <Crysta> lol
[02:56:23] <Crysta> it was with good reason that no one had added paperdoll art for them yet.. lol
[02:56:55] <Marzo> Haha, got it
[02:57:04] <Marzo> Won't be pretty, but it is doable
[02:57:09] <Crysta> yeah
[02:57:27] <Marzo> I will have to remove the cloak
[02:57:28] <Crysta> oh and before you ask after looking at the art.. i made the outlines more defined than normal on purpose
[02:57:39] <Crysta> really?
[02:57:44] <Crysta> well that works anyway
[02:57:49] <Marzo> I will add it in a different way
[02:57:51] <Crysta> you can just put on a cloak normally
[02:57:57] <Crysta> but youd need the red cloak
[02:58:18] <Marzo> I was thinking of the red cloak
[02:58:42] <Crysta> anyway yeah.. lines are thicker on purpose.. see.. its supposed to be an elaborated theatrical costume.. so i figured it make it look less than natural :P
[02:58:52] <Crysta> yeah.. but the cloak woul dhave to be added
[02:59:11] <Marzo> You know, have the cloak paperdoll be displayed also by the avatar costume
[02:59:22] <Marzo> (I can do that)
[02:59:35] <Marzo> Yes, I think I could do that
[02:59:42] <Crysta> ah you mean have the cloak seperate from the rest but still part of the costume when you put it on
[02:59:48] <Marzo> Yes
[02:59:55] <Marzo> The only problem would be someone tried to put on a cloak
[03:00:03] <Marzo> I will have to test it
[03:00:11] <Crysta> yeah.. see thats teh one problem
[03:00:20] <Crysta> getting all of the other stuff to not display when the costume is on
[03:00:21] <Marzo> So I guess I'll do the avatar costume now
[03:01:04] <Crysta> i connected the costume and cloak like that because i thought it might be easier that way.. obviously i was wrong :p
[03:01:25] <Marzo> It was a good intention
[03:01:37] <Marzo> But you know what they say about good intentions :-)
[03:01:41] <Crysta> lol
[03:01:52] <Marzo> Exactly :-)
[03:02:02] <Crysta> i cant remember the exact quote, but yes i know what they say :P
[03:37:07] <Marzo> Time now to see the crash
[03:37:13] <Crysta> lol
[03:37:18] <Crysta> not expecting it to work?
[03:37:22] <Marzo> :-)
[03:37:37] <Crysta> ^^;
[03:37:40] <Marzo> That way, I'll be pleasantly surprised if it does work :-)
[03:38:05] <Crysta> lol
[03:40:25] <Marzo> Nope, didn't work
[03:40:33] <Marzo> Cloak renders on top of everything
[03:40:41] <Crysta> blah
[03:41:10] <Crysta> how about making the outfirt display top layer with the front of the cloak as part of it?
[03:41:15] <Crysta> *outfit
[03:41:58] <Crysta> er
[03:42:01] <Crysta> not top
[03:42:08] <Crysta> need to have the arms visible
[03:42:24] <Crysta> uh... chest layer?
[03:43:06] <Marzo> Well, I'll try this tomorrow
[03:43:10] <Marzo> Going to bed now
[03:43:14] <Marzo> Good night
[03:43:34] <Marzo> (trying to limit myself to one miserable failure per night at most :-p)
[03:43:55] <Crysta> lol
[03:43:58] <Crysta> makes sense :p
[03:44:03] <Crysta> goodnight marzo :)
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[03:44:42] <Crysta> and im off.. night all :)
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[18:53:16] <Marzo> Hi
[18:53:26] <Crysta> hi marzo :)
[18:53:27] <Marzo> Got the avatar costume working
[18:53:48] <Crysta> woot!
[18:54:00] <Marzo> I merged the cape into the main body *and* in the arms to do it
[18:54:20] <Marzo> I also added some gump-colored background near the feet
[18:54:22] <Crysta> o.O
[18:54:28] <Crysta> interesting
[18:54:36] <Marzo> With this, it comes out on top of most things you wear
[18:54:54] <Crysta> what does show
[18:55:12] <Marzo> The costume
[18:55:26] <Marzo> I will post an example; hold on
[18:55:29] <Crysta> over it i mean
[18:55:35] <Crysta> you said "over most things"
[18:55:38] <Marzo> For example, amulets
[18:55:45] <Marzo> Gauntlets
[18:55:51] <Crysta> ah :D
[18:55:56] <Marzo> The frontal portion of capes
[18:56:01] <Crysta> the things that SHOULD show over it
[18:56:11] <Crysta> well.. aside from the cape.. but thats livable
[18:56:15] <Marzo> Yes
[18:56:16] <Crysta> probably covers the costume cape
[18:56:44] <Marzo> Besides, since the back portion of a cape is obscured by the costume cape, you can rationalize that the cape has been placed over the costume
[18:56:54] <Crysta> :)
[18:57:04] <Marzo> :-)
[18:57:09] <Crysta> sounds cool to me
[18:57:10] <Marzo> It looks very good
[18:57:14] <Crysta> :D
[18:57:28] <Crysta> that means we both did a good job
[18:57:34] <Marzo> Well, you already did some mockups; it looks like that in game
[18:57:42] <Crysta> perfect :)
[18:58:02] <Marzo> If you place boots or pants, they will be hidden by the costume
[18:58:19] <Marzo> Haven't tried gorgets
[18:58:37] <Marzo> Gorgets come out on top, like necklaces
[18:58:43] <Crysta> well.. gorget wouldnt be too much of a problem tho
[18:58:49] <Marzo> Yep
[18:58:51] <Crysta> will look a little odd
[18:58:55] <Crysta> but wont come up much
[18:59:11] <Marzo> Oh, and if the female avatar puts pants, they will show through the costume
[18:59:30] <Crysta> well yeah but thats because the female one has blank legs
[18:59:31] <Crysta> lol
[18:59:49] <Marzo> :-)
[18:59:55] <Crysta> i was trying to mimic the BG paperdoll :p
[19:00:09] <Marzo> For that, we might need the tiara too
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[19:00:13] <Marzo> :-)
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[19:00:17] <Marzo> Hi
[19:00:19] <Crysta> ohhh... forgot that
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[19:00:48] <Marzo> I also added most of the amulets
[19:01:05] <Crysta> :D
[19:01:09] <Marzo> I didn't add two which I didn't know what they were for
[19:01:17] <Crysta> the white one is henry's locket
[19:01:29] <Marzo> That one is not the problem
[19:01:32] <Crysta> the other one was another random test by me as an amulet for LapLem
[19:01:45] <Crysta> so you can ignore it
[19:01:46] <Crysta> lol
[19:01:50] <Crysta> forgot to take it off the sheet
[19:01:59] <Crysta> would require an item replacement too
[19:02:08] <Marzo> It is the blue one which I don't know where it should go
[19:02:21] <Crysta> the light blue one on the left?
[19:02:35] <Crysta> or the gold one withthe blue circle
[19:02:39] <Marzo> That doesn't look 'light' to me, but the one in the left yes
[19:02:51] <Crysta> that would be the fellowship medallion
[19:02:58] <Crysta> Batlin's was a special one
[19:03:05] <Marzo> It is too dark to be the fellowship medallion
[19:03:08] <Crysta> therefore none of the normal ones should look that way
[19:03:12] <Crysta> it is?
[19:03:16] <Marzo> Yes
[19:03:18] <Crysta> i can fix that.. but i thought it was right
[19:03:19] <Crysta> lol
[19:03:42] <Marzo> *Far* too dark
[19:03:49] <Crysta> sorry ^^;
[19:03:57] <Crysta> at least i got the shape right ^^;
[19:04:05] <Marzo> Compare to the non-paperdoll amulet and you will see
[19:04:08] <Marzo> :-)
[19:04:18] <Crysta> just waiting for things to load in PSP
[19:05:22] <Marzo> Meanwhile, I'll do the swamp boots
[19:05:27] <Crysta> k
[19:05:47] <Crysta> should be a "simple" replacement
[19:06:18] <Marzo> Not so simple given that the old graphic was from SI, but...
[19:06:26] <Marzo> it will be simple still
[19:06:47] <Crysta> yeah but they had to insert it seperately to use in BG didnt they?
[19:06:56] <Crysta> or does it directly access the Si one
[19:07:07] <Marzo> It directly uses the SI one
[19:07:16] <Marzo> But in a way easy to modify
[19:07:20] <Crysta> ah
[19:07:28] <Crysta> that i didnt know
[19:09:56] <Marzo> Your graphics seem wider than the SI ones
[19:09:59] <Crysta> ack
[19:10:04] <Crysta> :x
[19:10:25] <Marzo> It is no big deal
[19:10:45] <Marzo> (I think)
[19:11:19] <Crysta> i hope
[19:11:21] <Crysta> ask
[19:11:24] <Crysta> *afk
[19:11:29] <Marzo> k
[19:11:41] <Crysta> will have the amulet when i get back
[19:22:40] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/fellowship_amulet.gif?t=1165173745
[19:23:04] <Marzo> wb
[19:23:38] <Crysta> thanks
[19:25:19] <Crysta> oh wait
[19:25:40] <Crysta> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/crystaelf/fellowship_amulet_a.gif
[19:25:42] <Marzo> What?
[19:25:43] <Crysta> use that instead
[19:25:48] <Crysta> forgot to lighten the chain on the other
[19:27:10] <Marzo> Hoods are done
[19:27:28] <Crysta> :)
[19:27:42] <Marzo> Oh, just remembered
[19:27:46] <Crysta> ?
[19:27:55] <Marzo> For consistency, you should do a musket for the back too
[19:28:31] <Crysta> could just use that same frame for now
[19:28:45] <Marzo> It will look odd, but we can
[19:28:50] <Marzo> For now, at any rate
[19:28:55] <Crysta> yeah
[19:28:58] <Crysta> just for now
[19:29:00] <Marzo> Now... shirts!
[19:29:05] <Crysta> will take me a while to make the back one
[19:29:28] <Crysta> brb
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[19:32:12] <Crysta__> ...
[19:32:15] <Crysta__> anyway
[19:32:23] <Marzo> Lol
[19:32:24] <Crysta__> wiz, does uo.com work for you?
[19:32:25] <Marzo> wb
[19:33:00] <Crysta__> wiz, does uo.com work for you?
[19:33:32] <Crysta__> ok.. marzo could you try it since he obviously isnt here
[19:33:49] <Marzo> www.uo.com?
[19:33:52] <Crysta__> yeah
[19:34:02] <Marzo> Waiting...
[19:34:08] <Marzo> No
[19:34:15] <Marzo> Connection timed out
[19:34:16] <Crysta__> not jsut on my end then i guess
[19:34:24] <Marzo> :-)
[19:34:25] <Crysta__> i couldnt connect to the game either
[19:34:41] <Crysta__> was in the middle of getting a character and it wouldnt let me back.. dangit..
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[19:35:14] <Crysta___> ...
[19:35:18] <Marzo> :-)
[19:35:28] <Crysta___> how do i cancel my old login?
[19:35:31] <Crysta___> i cant remember
[19:35:39] <Marzo> Neither do I
[19:35:47] * Marzo pokes SleepingDragon repeatedly with the Death Scythe in an attempt to get a reply
[19:35:59] <Crysta___> ah well.. guess i just need to wait the 15 minutes or so for it to time out
[19:36:06] <Marzo> Yep
[19:48:29] <Crysta___> brb
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[19:51:49] <Crysta> there
[19:51:55] <Marzo> wb
[19:52:07] <Crysta> thanks
[20:05:21] <Marzo> I noticed that there are only female pants in the images you sent me
[20:05:34] <Crysta> like i said.. still not done the male ones
[20:05:42] <Marzo> :-)
[20:05:54] <Marzo> I will hold off the pants until they are done then
[20:06:00] <Crysta> k
[20:06:07] <Crysta> could be a while
[20:06:15] <Marzo> :-)
[20:06:34] * Marzo suddenly remembers the Mariah gump for no reason
[20:06:37] * Marzo ducks
[20:06:51] <Crysta> ....
[20:08:05] <Marzo> brb
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[20:13:05] <Marzo_away> bbl
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[20:43:41] <SleepingDragon> moo
[20:43:46] <SleepingDragon> who pinged me?
[20:43:58] <Crysta> marzo.. but dont need it anymore
[20:44:08] <SleepingDragon> lol
[20:44:09] <SleepingDragon> <_<
[20:44:37] <Crysta> lol
[20:44:43] <Crysta> well it was because of me :p
[20:44:51] <Crysta> and what i needed isnt necessary anymore
[20:44:52] <Crysta> so there
[20:45:50] <SleepingDragon> :P
[20:57:47] <servus> Scare away any more potential developers lately? : o)
[20:57:55] <Crysta> lol
[20:58:06] <SleepingDragon> I eat developers
[20:58:11] <SleepingDragon> theyre tasty with HP sauce
[21:33:10] <servus> Are you making the new SI paperdoll art as well? I've yet to see any.
[21:33:24] <Crysta> new.. SI paperdoll art?
[21:34:04] <servus> The paperdoll art style introduced in Serpent Isle, wherein the garments are placed on the actual character, not just connected by a line.
[21:34:12] <Crysta> oh
[21:34:25] <Crysta> well tehres a lot i did that still needs to be added to the client
[21:34:49] <Crysta> i bascially redid everything that exult had before for the "BG items that arent in SI"
[21:35:03] <Crysta> except for the male pants.. i still ahvent done those
[21:35:23] <Crysta> but for completely new items i dont have any yet
[21:35:26] <SleepingDragon> hmm
[21:35:42] <SleepingDragon> would be nice to have those noble dresses :P
[21:35:46] <Crysta> im not good at faces so i cant fix up the hideous SI heads that dont fit the paperdoll style
[21:36:15] <Crysta> i did some corrections for th petra paperdoll but thats nothing too interesting.. and im thinking of changing them again anyway
[21:36:32] <servus> But I did those! :p
[21:36:41] <Crysta> did what
[21:36:50] <servus> Many of the "BG items that aren't in SI".
[21:36:53] <Crysta> erk
[21:36:57] <Crysta> you made those?
[21:37:09] <servus> A lot of them. As far as I know, I was the only one beside you making paperdoll art.
[21:37:12] <Crysta> oh you probably want to hurt me x_x
[21:37:22] <servus> You redid them all?
[21:37:38] <Crysta> not all.. a few i liked as they were
[21:37:41] <servus> This channel holds ill fortune for me *grin*
[21:38:17] <Crysta> :x
[21:38:29] <Crysta> maybe i should just go hide now before i get killed
[21:38:41] * SleepingDragon casts Invisibility on Crysta
[21:39:54] <Crysta> most of the replacements i did werent added yet
[21:40:12] <Crysta> i think the only one that has been was the leather collar, really
[21:40:14] <servus> It's alright *grin*
[21:40:28] <Crysta> i also finished all of the other ones that needed art but didnt have it
[21:40:42] <servus> I thought all the BG items were done a long while back?
[21:40:55] <Crysta> avatar costume is the one i can think of right now
[21:41:02] <Crysta> there were another 2 or 3
[21:41:19] <SleepingDragon> servus: They were, but a lot of them were ... not so great
[21:41:21] <SleepingDragon> ugh
[21:41:23] <Crysta> i did the other hand for the main gauche, but i dont think it came out too well
[21:41:43] <Crysta> oh.. the fellowship staff.. thats one that made it in
[21:43:23] <Crysta> and then WJP got busy and couldnt add any of the rest.. and that was about 2 years ago now.. or was it a year and a half
[21:43:27] <Crysta> i think it was 2
[21:43:40] <Crysta> but i cant really remember.. its been a long year
[21:43:52] <SleepingDragon> lol
[21:43:57] <SleepingDragon> 1 and a half
[21:44:02] <SleepingDragon> not quite 2
[21:44:03] <SleepingDragon> hehe
[21:44:10] <Crysta> what he said then..
[21:44:47] <servus> Oh, OK.
[21:52:27] <Crysta> *coughs*
[21:54:01] <SleepingDragon> thats a nasty cough you got there
[21:54:14] <Crysta> yeah
[21:54:24] <Crysta> it seems to be caused by uncomfortable silences
[22:05:51] <SleepingDragon> lol
[22:05:56] <SleepingDragon> well
[22:06:04] <SleepingDragon> talk to me and I'll say something
[22:06:10] <SleepingDragon> :P
[22:06:32] <Crysta> i dont know what to talk about
[22:07:24] <Crysta> plus i feel bad now.. :x
[22:07:55] * servus giggles. It's OK, wjp paid me $10 an hour for those paperdoll pieces.
[22:08:12] <Crysta> now i feel worse
[22:09:26] <SleepingDragon> Only $10? You should have held out for more
[22:09:34] <SleepingDragon> WJP likes his paperdolls ;-)
[22:09:56] <Crysta> bad joke wiz
[22:10:12] <Crysta> and to clarify i feel worse because it recplaced stuff you were paid for
[22:10:44] <Crysta> because i know if i were paid for something and it was replaced id be upset x.x
[22:12:17] <SleepingDragon> Methinks servus is also joking, Crysta
[22:12:29] <Crysta> ....
[22:12:43] * SleepingDragon eats the ellispis. Yum.
[22:12:44] <Crysta> i .. really dont know.. x.x
[22:17:20] * servus petpets Crysta. It's alright, I'm just joking, and I made all that art in just a few days. If I spent as much time as you do on a frock I'd feel worse *giggles*
[22:17:35] <servus> And no wjp didn't pay me. Not even in cookies.
[22:20:29] <Crysta> why does everyone find it so fun to do this kinda thing to me? T_T
[22:20:46] <SleepingDragon> Er.
[22:20:54] <SleepingDragon> The world is not out to get you :P
[22:21:18] <Crysta> no, but people picking on me for fun are :|
[22:29:00] <Crysta> this time im kidding :p
[22:29:36] <Crysta> tho it does seem to happen a lot >.>
[22:33:14] * SleepingDragon pokes the pointy eye
[22:33:23] <Crysta> ow x.x
[22:34:14] <SleepingDragon> lol
[22:34:15] <SleepingDragon> aw
[22:34:30] <Crysta> ?
[22:36:19] * SleepingDragon hugs Crysta
[22:36:34] <Crysta> o.O
[22:37:20] <Crysta> ^^;
[22:38:01] <SleepingDragon> lol
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