#uwadv@irc.freenode.net logs for 14 Jan 2003 (GMT)

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[01:41:12] <Eldron> hey
[01:43:55] <Servus_> hello
[02:07:37] <Eldron> how goes your modelling?
[02:13:10] <Servus_> tis good
[02:13:23] <Servus_> unfortunately for you, im making an uw2-only creature right now :)
[02:13:37] <Servus_> but all static objects in the game are done, more-or-less
[02:15:57] <Eldron> heh.. which creature?
[02:17:36] <Eldron> ah well.. really must sleep now :/
[02:18:08] <Servus_> bye, and a talorid
[02:18:25] <Servus_> i like to start with easy stuff so it looks like im working:)
[03:08:56] <Eldron> hmm.. cant sleep at all..
[03:09:15] <Eldron> which is too bad, since I got to get up in about 3 hours...
[03:10:01] <Servus_> hehe
[03:10:04] <Servus_> thats bad
[03:10:09] <Servus_> school?
[03:10:21] <Eldron> yea
[03:10:30] <Servus_> seems everyone here is in school
[03:10:48] <Eldron> yea, so it seems
[03:10:56] <Eldron> you are not?
[03:11:00] <Servus_> halfway through university here
[03:11:05] <Eldron> oh
[03:11:19] <Eldron> Im halfway through highschool
[03:11:30] <Servus_> ohh, well most people are in college here, i meant:)
[03:15:06] <Eldron> hmm, I really should finish the gazer, but mapping a sphere object is very frustrating..
[03:16:31] <Servus_> want me to help you out? :)
[03:16:47] <Servus_> here are some hints : Unwrap UVW, and Deep Paint :)
[03:16:56] <Servus_> unwrap UVW will help you most
[03:17:02] <Servus_> what program are you using
[03:17:24] <Servus_> 3dmax?
[03:17:26] <Eldron> blender..
[03:17:39] <Eldron> unwrapping is very.. manual..
[03:18:11] <Servus_> well im sure theres something similar to unwrap UVW for blender, and its very manual but what you do is you do a couple planar maps to groups of triangles to rough it out, then you use unwrap UVW to make it look nicer
[03:18:23] <Servus_> and deep paint 3d works in Blender... do you know what it is?
[03:18:51] <Eldron> deep paint 3d is some program where you paint directly on the model.. right?
[03:19:47] <Servus_> yesh
[03:20:04] <Servus_> quite useful for strange objects like that gazer
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[03:22:56] <Eldron> hmm..
[03:23:00] <Eldron> there I went
[03:25:03] <Servus_> hi again then
[03:25:44] <Eldron> hmm, though, the gazer is the only monster ingame that has a sphereshape as far as I remember.. so I'll survive it..
[03:25:57] <Eldron> the rest are.. thank god.. humanoid characters..
[03:26:03] <Servus_> i can do it for you if you like, since i have more tools for just such a job
[03:27:16] <Eldron> well, it would be helpfull, But I believe Im nearly there.. I just have some tiny issues left :/
[03:27:49] <Servus_> http://www.geocities.com/russell_figowitz/images/Talorid.jpg whatchya think?
[03:28:45] <Eldron> I think I saw that.. so It'll be a flat mesh?
[03:28:51] <Eldron> its great though
[03:30:06] <Servus_> flat except for the core in the middle... and ive added an alpha map since you saw it last
[03:30:34] <Eldron> hmm, I did something else today.. sketched some in open canvas.. http://eldron.20m.com/drawing/nano/corvette_skiss.jpg
[03:31:32] <Servus_> heh thats damn cool, i like that, charcoal? pastel? pencil?
[03:31:39] <Eldron> digital :)
[03:32:17] <Servus_> i like the girl too
[03:32:21] <Servus_> and you said 'open canvas'...
[03:32:29] <Eldron> open canvas is a program
[03:32:51] <Servus_> oh ok
[03:32:59] <Eldron> the girl is on paper
[03:33:17] <Eldron> I prefer drawing on the computer though, since the paper rarely survive my ways of treating it
[03:33:31] <Eldron> I 'undo' too much
[03:35:23] <Servus_> Yea :) but i do a little on canvas _because_ there is no undo, it makes me better:P
[03:36:27] <Eldron> I always change my mind about poses and other stuff in the middle of the painting, which results in lots of half-erased lines.. and a big mess..
[03:39:30] <Servus_> heh
[03:39:49] <Servus_> if youre talking about painting-painting, then you do it in pencil first and with a thick coat of paint on top, you dont have to erase
[03:40:45] <Eldron> that I'm even more lousy at, since the paint lacks the opacy-pressure-sensetivity >:)
[03:41:12] <Servus_> then airbrush :)
[03:41:30] <Servus_> airbrush has opacity settings in real life :P
[03:43:27] <Eldron> I've done some spraypainting :) but I haven't had any big surfaces to train on yet, so I haven't progressed in that so much, and ah, its hard aswell..
[03:44:15] <Servus_> Spraypainting is wayyyy different, and you dont need a bigger area than what a 17" monitor would be to spraypaint... they have replaceable nozzles and some are very fine
[03:45:31] <Eldron> if you are doing it without using shapes and forms to help you paint, then it gets hard.. since even the smallest nozzle makes a size of 1cm^2
[03:46:55] <Servus_> there are techniques
[03:47:12] <Eldron> I know.. But.. Im very new at it :)
[03:49:25] <Eldron> Im sticking with the computer until it gets warmer..
[03:49:32] <Servus_> heh
[04:19:07] <Servus_> ok, after much procrastination, im done with the talorid -- the rest of himwill have to be finished with programming :)
[04:19:50] <Eldron> what is next on the list then?
[04:20:15] <Servus_> everything else :)
[04:20:36] <Servus_> not sure, id like to see some of these in-game to get me enthusiastic about finishing them:P
[04:20:48] <Eldron> heh
[05:04:13] <Servus_> oh, and the Brain Creature is next
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[15:21:55] <vividos> hi
[15:23:12] <Eldron> hey
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[16:01:07] <wjp> hi
[16:12:14] <vividos> hi wjp
[16:31:43] <vividos> 'till later!
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[20:03:55] <wjp> hi
[20:15:49] <vividos> hi
[20:21:03] <vividos> I'm away a bit
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