#uwadv@irc.freenode.net logs for 17 Jan 2003 (GMT)

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[01:12:14] <Eld^zz> hello coren
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[01:12:39] <Coren_> Heya.
[01:12:49] * Coren_ recuperates from surgery.
[01:13:07] <Eldron> eh?
[01:14:03] <Coren_> I have had two bits removed. :-) Not sure what their names are in english, though.
[01:14:44] <Eldron> oh
[01:15:54] <Servus> 'elo
[01:16:01] <Servus> what are they in your language then
[01:16:02] <Coren_> All in all, nothing extraordinary. Neither of those bits were especially useful or important to have (but they do hurt a great deal when they get sick)
[01:16:34] <Coren_> "Vésicule Billiaire" and "Appendice"
[01:17:10] <Coren_> I was told my my surgeon that it was amazingly unlikely that both would fail simultaneously.
[01:17:17] <Servus> last is just the appendix :P
[01:17:27] <Servus> other is a lymph i believe
[01:17:47] <Coren_> Well, it's the storage compartment for bile that lives right next to the liver.
[01:18:13] <Servus> pancreas?
[01:18:31] <Coren_> Nope; that's something else entirely.
[01:18:35] <Servus> all i know about anatomy is from drawing books, so... :-)
[01:18:39] * Coren_ goes and look it up on the 'net
[01:20:09] <Servus> is that where youve been all this time? or was it a sudden thing?
[01:20:17] <Coren_> "Gall bladder" according to bablefish
[01:20:36] <Coren_> It's sudden as of monday night.
[01:20:53] <Servus> gall bladder? thats where urine is stored, not bile :P
[01:21:08] <Servus> and as far as i know it can't be taken out without a really expensive prosthesis? but what do i know :)
[01:21:10] <Coren_> No, urine is in "bladder" period.
[01:21:16] <Coren_> AFAIK
[01:21:22] <Servus> afaik?
[01:21:28] <Coren_> As Far As I Know
[01:22:43] <Servus> i see. well good luck with that
[01:22:54] <Coren_> No, looking "gall bladder" on the net gives the right organ (and not the bladder)
[01:23:01] <Coren_> http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/surgery/clin/gi/gallblad.html]
[01:23:02] <Servus> i shall look it up
[01:23:10] <Coren_> http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/surgery/clin/gi/gallblad.html
[01:24:48] <Servus> interesting
[01:26:08] <Coren_> At any rate, I'm recuperating fast; I expect I will stop sleeping 20h/day soon. :-)
[01:26:19] <Servus> which of these diseases did you have, if any?
[01:26:34] <Coren_> Chronic Cholecystitis
[01:27:30] <Coren_> But the reason why I went to the hospital was that while I was having an episode, I ended up having my appendix fail simultaneously.
[01:27:54] <Coren_> having *both* fail was, err, very very very painful. Like "Please kill me soon" pain.
[01:28:49] <Servus> and this? http://pennhealth.com/health/health_info/Surgery/appendectomy_2.html ow
[01:30:32] <Coren_> Yes.
[01:31:50] <Servus> well i hope you get better soon, that sounds pretty bad
[01:32:25] <Coren_> Actually, the worst is over-- it was the part where I was in pain before they diagnosed me. :-)
[01:32:39] <Servus> ah, i know how that is
[01:32:52] <Coren_> Once they figured out what was wrong they stuffed my with demerol until surgery. :-)
[01:33:20] <Servus> i broke my arm REALLY badly once, and actually wheeled my bike back into the house, and went to sleep on the couch (it didnt hurt at alL), but when i woke up and tried to get up to go to the hospital, i couldnt even move
[01:33:26] <Coren_> That drug has an odd effect. It still hurts just as much but you don't mind anymore. :-)
[01:33:41] <Servus> heh, pain killers dont seem to affect me :(
[01:34:57] <Coren_> That sucks.
[01:35:39] <Servus> www.geocities.com/russell_figowitz/images/brainiac2.jpg
[01:35:40] <Coren_> At any rate, it no longer really hurts or anything; I'm just very very weak from surgery. One or two weeks I'm told I should expect.
[01:36:05] <Servus> ah
[01:36:37] <Coren_> Oooo. Brain creature concept art. :-)
[01:36:44] <Servus> it's done:P
[01:37:02] <Eldron> servus, you should render it in another perspective :)
[01:37:06] <Coren_> Neat.
[01:37:43] <Servus> http://www.geocities.com/russell_figowitz/images/brainiac.jpg
[01:38:00] <Eldron> ah!
[01:38:04] <Servus> ah!
[01:38:19] <Servus> id like to fix up the texture on its "face" though
[01:38:51] <Eldron> it screams of stretching and mirroring :)
[01:39:04] <Servus> :-/
[01:39:13] <Coren_> Probably because it was stretched and mirrored. :-)
[01:39:33] <Servus> i can use a 1024x512 texture if you likeee ;)
[01:39:42] * Coren_ chuckles.
[01:39:55] <Coren_> That wasn't a complaint, it was just an observation. :-)
[01:40:13] <Servus> "<Servus> id like to fix up the texture on its "face" though" ;)
[01:40:50] <Servus> darke said it looked like a "cute flying fluffy gerbil"
[01:40:59] <Eldron> heh
[01:41:10] * Servus cries
[01:41:32] <Coren_> Don't mind Darke; he's odd. :-)
[01:41:41] <Eldron> well, when you mention it.. it looks kinda cute >:)
[01:42:17] <Coren_> Well, I need to go and try to get some food down.
[01:42:29] <Servus> i wish i had some potato chips on IV
[01:42:32] <Eldron> it lures the avatar.. with its adorable cuteness, and then when its too late it EATS the avatars brainz! to add to its own!
[01:42:40] * Coren_ grumbles as he's been directed to avoid fat entierly for at least a week.
[01:43:34] <Servus> yeah i read that on the page you gave
[01:43:51] <Servus> so only the skinny gratenkuts
[01:44:21] <Servus> sorry:)
[01:44:50] <Coren_> Heh.
[01:44:54] <Coren_> BBL.
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[17:13:45] <vividos> hooray, he's back!
[17:13:57] <vividos> for all log-readers: http://www.asamnet.de/~finkm/uwadv/static_models.png
[17:14:18] <Eldron> yay!
[17:14:42] <Eldron> where is the shading?
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[17:25:50] <vividos> no shading, because no lights in uwadv yet
[17:26:13] <Eldron> ah, only the fog?
[17:26:16] <vividos> yes
[17:26:31] <vividos> it looks like there is some light centered around the player
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[17:35:53] <wjp> hi
[17:35:55] <vividos> hi wjp
[17:46:02] <vividos> http://www.vendian.org/language_year/ (about some scripting languages, including Lua, that we use)
[17:47:02] <Eldron> hmm, how much in uwadv is controlled through lua?.. modding-capabilities always interests me..
[17:56:06] <vividos> you can access all underworld-related things with Lua (player, tilemap, etc.). there are some callback functions to start conversations, etc.
[17:56:41] <vividos> Lua basically is for implementing higher-level things like monster AI or trigger/trap behaviour and such
[17:57:10] <vividos> Lua in uwadv is basically ... (the right sentence start)
[17:57:30] <Eldron> like any other proper scripting language for a game? :)
[17:57:45] <vividos> yes :)
[17:58:22] <Eldron> Im weak for such things.. when stuff is not completely hardcoded..
[17:58:43] <Eldron> there even was a time when I just had to get a game when I noticed that it came with editor and scripting stuff..
[17:58:49] <vividos> hehe
[18:00:04] <vividos> I also plan to have a "debug" application to debug and modify the underworld, as well as Lua and conversation code
[18:01:53] <Eldron> lua looks very C like too
[18:02:20] <vividos> yes
[18:02:29] <vividos> it has some other concepts, though
[18:19:44] <vividos> wjp, about that OpenGL automake macro (just discovered it in the logs) ...
[18:19:45] <vividos> http://www.gnu.org/software/ac-archive/Installed_Packages/mdl_have_opengl.html
[18:20:15] <vividos> http://www.gnu.org/software/ac-archive/mdl_have_opengl.html (they changed the link)
[18:20:40] <vividos> ... I think we should use it in uwadv
[18:21:10] <vividos> btw, what libtool version do you use?
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[18:39:57] <wjp> ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.4.1 (1.922.2.34 2001/09/03 01:22:13)
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[19:41:57] <vividos> thanks wjp
[19:42:51] <wjp> for what? :-)
[19:47:09] <vividos> yes :)
[19:54:11] <vividos> hmm, we could do a new release soon, with the 3d objects incorporated
[20:00:10] <wjp> hm, lots of warnings
[20:00:28] <wjp> mainly signed/unsigned ones
[20:00:50] <wjp> a couple of '... might be used uninitialized in this function'
[20:01:08] <vividos> in newly committed files?
[20:01:17] <wjp> current cvs, yes
[20:01:48] <vividos> want to fix yourself? if not, just send me the full warnings dump
[20:01:53] <wjp> also segfaults at startup
[20:02:28] <vividos> thats worse :/
[20:02:41] <wjp> could be because of some missing files, though
[20:02:47] <vividos> updated uadata, too?
[20:03:02] <wjp> yeah
[20:03:15] * wjp wonders where uwadv is looking for the data
[20:03:28] <vividos> which data? the models?
[20:03:48] <wjp> uadata dir
[20:03:49] <wjp> hm, in the wrong place it seems :-)
[20:03:54] <wjp> apparently I moved some directory trees around without telling uwadv :-)
[20:04:07] <vividos> heh :)
[20:04:12] <wjp> ok, much better now
[20:04:50] <vividos> should put in files checking soon
[20:06:11] <wjp> where can I see some 3d models?
[20:07:03] <vividos> hmm, in the 4th level (if you go down with alt+pgdown) there is a bigger room with some trolls
[20:07:15] <vividos> there is a fireplace where a muffin and the meat lies
[20:07:41] <vividos> you first start at sethar strongarm, then leave his home, going south
[20:07:55] <wjp> heh, the scroll says "changing to level 4", the console says "changing to level 3" :-)
[20:08:51] <vividos> well, it really is level 3, since it's zero-based :)
[20:09:11] <wjp> ywah, I guessed :-)
[20:10:26] * vividos is building newest wxWindows release ... seems to take forever
[20:12:13] <Eldron> what would be the name of the new release?.. muffin? :)
[20:12:20] <vividos> hey, good name :)
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[21:21:14] <vividos> just noticed Sir Cabirus almost finished his map walkthrough: http://www.sircabirus.com/uw1walk/pages/index.html
[21:36:21] <vividos> http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Games/Adventure/index.shtml
[21:40:18] <vividos> have to go then. 'night!
[21:40:28] <Eldron> gnight..
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