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[16:27:55] <brat-simpson> hello
[16:28:22] <wjp> hi
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[16:34:36] <brat-simpson> ive said this before.. but i KNOW this is from UW2 ... can you verify?
[16:34:43] <brat-simpson> http://sinistersounds.net/audio.htm the music in the song "stand silent"
[16:36:29] <wjp> realaudio? yuck
[16:37:11] <wjp> hm, it does sound somewhat familiar
[16:37:40] <wjp> not sure though
[16:39:38] <Coren_> Well, I could tell, but I have no means of listening to a RA stream.
[16:39:58] <wjp> hm, I can probably oggify it for you
[16:40:34] <brat-simpson> haha
[16:40:42] <brat-simpson> everybody hates realplayer
[16:40:46] <brat-simpson> i dont blame you though
[16:41:28] <wjp> ok, downloaded and converted... uploading...
[16:41:59] * wjp kicks his 128kbit upstream
[16:42:14] <Coren_> DSL is fun. :-)
[16:42:51] <wjp> it'll be upgraded to a whopping 160kbit in two weeks :-)
[16:43:11] <brat-simpson> my internet is powered by hamsters
[16:46:06] <wjp> I hope they're treated well?
[16:47:29] <brat-simpson> im afraid not.
[16:48:13] <Coren_> Yes. The pizzicato string phrase is taken from "Blackrock Prison" of UW2; but it's just an insignificant section.
[16:48:58] <Coren_> Which means either that Standing Silent song has been inspired by th'other, or they were both inspired by some common ancestor. :-)
[16:50:32] <brat-simpson> yeah it must've i suppose
[16:50:44] <brat-simpson> i dont mind the rap song either, it has a political feel to it
[16:51:13] <Coren_> I mind rap in general. I feel it doesn't have a song feel to it. :-)
[16:51:19] * wjp minds it too :-)
[16:52:05] <brat-simpson> yeah i dont usually listen to rap
[16:52:37] <Coren_> I haven't finsihed remastering "Blackrock Prison", but you can listed to the low-quality version at http://low.sf.net/blackrockprison.mp3
[16:52:50] <Coren_> s/listed/listen/
[16:52:59] <wjp> if it wasn't 403, that is :-)
[16:53:21] <brat-simpson> Oh cool, let me hear this
[16:53:28] <brat-simpson> it says "forbidden"
[16:53:34] <wjp> I just said that :-)
[16:53:43] <Coren_> Perhaps if it wasn't. SCP is being overly paranoid with the umask. Hang on.
[16:53:51] <brat-simpson> Sorry, i dont know the codes
[16:53:58] <wjp> "scp -p" preserves permisions
[16:54:08] <Coren_> There.
[16:54:12] <brat-simpson> Great..
[16:54:51] <brat-simpson> Ahh very nice.. nice work
[16:55:03] <Coren_> And before you get on my case about mp3 vs ogg; ogg is computationally expensive and I just don't like it. There.
[16:55:16] <brat-simpson> I dont even know what a ogg is haha
[16:55:22] <wjp> I don't particularly care one way or the other :-)
[16:55:33] <wjp> I just don't think I have an mp3 encoder installed here
[16:55:53] <Coren_> You'd be surprised. I got *hate mail* through my sf account when I posted 0.2 with the mp3 music. :-)
[16:56:16] <wjp> heh, silly zealots :-)
[16:56:24] <brat-simpson> Are there lasers involved
[16:57:35] <Coren_> Besides, I have dedicated hardware to encode mpeg-2 video and audio. I am *not* going to wait longer just to please some zealots. :-)
[16:57:58] <wjp> you're awfully defensive about it, though :-)
[16:58:13] <brat-simpson> Have you found the shield of valour yet
[16:58:16] <Coren_> Nah, just a pet peeve. :-)
[16:58:30] <wjp> shield of valour? hm, several times :-)
[16:58:35] <brat-simpson> hahaha
[16:59:15] <Coren_> brat: Good ear, though. How long had it been since you had last heard UW2?
[17:00:15] <brat-simpson> THanks.. I played it just recently, in fact.. on my old laptop, until it broke down :(
[17:01:02] <brat-simpson> I am very pleased to know there are other fans of UW too out there..
[17:02:29] <Coren_> The Underworlds were unexplicably strangely unknown at their time, which is remarkable because they were nothing short of revolutionnary. Guess the RPG tag simply scared most people away.
[17:03:54] <brat-simpson> Yeah, i know.. the 3D engines back then were ridiculous; not even 3D in fact.. The definition for "1st Person" meant an orthangle 90 degree rotation evertime you wanted to turn
[17:04:39] <Coren_> Althoug Dungeon Master was also great fun for /its/ time. :-)
[17:06:02] <brat-simpson> Certainly.. but walking around in a 3D texture-mapped -convincing- environment was mindblowing..
[17:07:45] <Coren_> Wait 'till you see the new LoW engine with nice textures, per pixel lighting and shadows. :-)
[17:09:19] <brat-simpson> Oohh..that sounds great, .. LoW?
[17:11:52] <Coren_> STill lots of work to be done.
[17:11:53] <Coren_> BBL
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[17:52:31] <brat-simpson> nice chatting.. bye!
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[20:04:14] <Dragst> aaaaargh!
[20:04:27] <Dragst> don't tell me this is going to be hardware TnL only?!
[20:15:12] <wjp> hm, I have no idea what Coren_ is planning for LoW
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[22:20:25] <Dragst> because
[22:20:28] <Dragst> that will suck bigtime
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[23:50:26] <servus> Coren should know that the original Underworld had nice textures, per pixel lighting, and... well maybe not shadows, but still! :-0
[23:51:00] <servus> And it's not hardware T&L only... very few things are, y'know. ;-)