#uwadv@irc.freenode.net logs for 8 Aug 2002 (GMT)

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[00:00:06] <wjp> documentation is good thing :-)
[00:00:17] <Dominus> wjp: you meant that one: http://totl.net/Penultima/
[00:00:19] <Dominus> ?
[00:00:29] <wjp> yeah, that's the one
[00:00:45] <vividos> for the Lua stuff it's necessary
[00:01:21] <wjp> (btw, by 'amazed' I mean amazed in a good way :-) )
[00:02:51] <vividos> lord english, lol
[00:05:31] <vividos> and atavar :)
[00:05:55] <vividos> amazed: you know, there are times when one just can't code
[00:08:08] * wjp yawns
[00:08:11] <wjp> why am I still up?
[00:08:32] <wjp> g'night
[00:08:37] <vividos> night!
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[00:11:40] <vividos> have to go, too. bye Dominus!
[00:11:56] <Dominus> me too
[00:11:59] <Dominus> bye
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[09:38:08] <wjp> hi
[09:38:26] <phlask> hey... not much happening here eh
[09:39:17] <wjp> too early :-)
[09:39:30] <phlask> yeah... for me too
[09:41:30] <phlask> I'm gone
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[10:49:44] <vividos> 'morning :)
[10:56:01] * vividos is going to write some more documentation
[11:05:54] <vividos> wjp: could you do a quick make dist and upload it somewhere?
[11:47:13] <wjp> hi
[11:47:16] <wjp> hm, no, sorry
[11:47:22] <wjp> (not right now, anyway)
[11:49:31] <wjp> (since I'm not at home right now)
[11:50:51] <wjp> also, 'make dist' doesn't include all files yet
[11:51:04] <wjp> most notably the entire hacking/ subdir won't be included
[11:52:47] <wjp> vividos: oh, btw, what version should this 'in-between' make dist have?
[11:53:03] <vividos> ok then
[11:53:16] <vividos> the "hacking" folder doesn't need to be included in a dist
[11:53:51] <vividos> hmm, just use 0.4 for now, for the next release we use 0.5 I think
[11:54:16] <vividos> hmm, do words work for version number?
[11:54:21] <wjp> yeah
[11:56:01] <vividos> we could use the codenames :) or a combination? cheesecake-0.4?
[11:56:17] <wjp> I'd prefer 0.4-cheesecake then
[11:56:36] <vividos> ok
[11:57:21] <wjp> or 0.4a-cheesecake maybe since this isn't quite cheesecake anymore
[11:59:22] <vividos> ok yes
[11:59:55] <vividos> should we do a sf-release? I only wanted to test it on a freebsd machine that doesn't have the latest autotools yet
[12:00:13] <wjp> it won't work on anything below autoconf-2.5
[12:00:51] <vividos> I noticed :)
[12:02:05] <wjp> I wonder what to do about that stdlib.h
[12:02:34] <wjp> I'm thinking of using the SDL types when that header isn't found
[12:04:17] <vividos> stdint.h?
[12:04:45] <wjp> you emailed me about that, didn't you?
[12:06:11] <vividos> I thought I sent it to the devel list
[12:06:22] <wjp> true
[12:06:35] <vividos> we could generally replace the typedefs with the ones from SDL I think
[12:06:48] <vividos> so we don't have to check for that header
[12:06:48] <wjp> yeah
[12:07:02] <vividos> along with an update of the zziplib :)
[12:07:18] <wjp> does it need an update?
[12:07:42] <vividos> maybe, I should have a look at their changelog.
[12:07:49] <vividos> I'm away for 5 minutes :)
[12:16:26] <vividos> I'm back
[12:18:03] <vividos> btw, uwadv's zziplib contains a hacked-in feature that the newer versions also have
[12:19:05] <wjp> which one?
[12:20:26] <vividos> I prevented that real files are opened when no zip file was found
[12:23:31] <vividos> hmm, most changes are documentation related. I don't think we must upgrade
[12:24:11] * wjp nods
[12:25:26] <vividos> FreeBSD ports is a nice thing :)
[12:38:43] <vividos> for wincvs, should the option "Checkout text files with the Unix LF (0xa)" checked or unchecked?
[12:39:16] <wjp> hm, slightly confusing wording
[12:40:10] <wjp> I think it should be disabled
[12:40:44] <vividos> ok
[12:45:11] <vividos> in what files do we have version numbers that need to be updated on release?
[12:48:24] <vividos> configure.ac, uwadv.spec.in, more?
[13:00:27] <wjp> the spec should get the version number from configure
[13:01:25] <wjp> (if it
[13:01:33] <wjp> doesn't yet, I'll change it tonight)
[13:01:51] <vividos> then the configure.ac alone has the version number?
[13:01:59] <vividos> (I just need that for documentation)
[13:02:50] <wjp> yeah
[13:03:11] <wjp> hm, oops, I have to be somewhere 2 minutes ago :-)
[13:03:18] <wjp> bye
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[13:05:19] <vividos> bye :)
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[16:32:51] <vividos> oh hi wjp!
[16:33:00] <wjp> hi :-)
[16:33:27] <vividos> the bug you fixed yesterday and the one I fixed today seems quite the same
[16:33:40] <wjp> I fixed a bug yesterday?
[16:33:50] <wjp> oh, the string/char* one?
[16:34:00] <vividos> yes, the char.creation was the same one
[16:34:35] <vividos> when I think of it, I don't think it's a bug
[16:34:54] <wjp> could be a bug in the string implementation
[16:35:23] * wjp will go do a make dist now
[16:35:26] <vividos> ua_settings::get_string() returns a temporary value that is destroyed right after the function returns. but the functions did take the const char* of it via c_str()
[16:36:09] * vividos doesn't know if that makes sense
[16:36:16] <wjp> hm, no, the get_string is valid
[16:36:29] <vividos> hmm ... ok have to go now, watching futurama :)
[16:36:30] <wjp> the string object is copied
[16:36:38] <wjp> k :-)
[16:37:16] <vividos> even if the c_str() is the only thing done with the temporary std::string?
[16:37:42] <wjp> hm, yes, that could go wrong, I guess
[16:38:03] <vividos> 'k, I'm off. bye!
[16:38:05] <wjp> it theoretically isn't in use anymore after the expression has been evaluated
[16:38:07] <wjp> bye :-)
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[17:35:30] <wjp> hi
[17:42:36] <phlask> hi there
[17:42:44] <phlask> quiet as usual eh
[17:43:27] <wjp> yup :-)
[17:43:30] * wjp just got back from dinner
[17:43:49] <phlask> well... I for one could use a cup of coffee
[17:44:00] <phlask> bbl
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