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[00:45:51] <Dominus> Darrenor64: hi
[00:46:34] <Dominus> why do you need to change SDL mixer for choosing the Win32 device?
[00:47:37] <Dominus> exult or scummvm can do this without such a change. AFAIK scummvm does it in the gui even
[00:48:35] <Dominus> just my first thought after reading your comment last night
[00:48:53] <Dominus> off to sleep again... ;)
[00:58:05] <Kirben> Also worth mentioning the Windows builds currently only include the module music.
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[01:14:08] <Darrenor64> From examining the source code, it seems that sdlmixer chooses the system default midi for handling midi files. In windows vista+, the default midi device is always a software synth and can only be changed by manaully editing the windows registry.
[01:18:36] <Darrenor64> Technically, the MIDI files extracted by minstrel dragon (with the exception of the selected instruments) are the purest usable version of the u4 music -- it was extracted from the apple ][ version (which used more 'voices' than the c64 SID version). I like the idea of having alternative media packages -- different u4 fans prefer different versions. This was all prompted by a blog I read where
[01:18:37] <Darrenor64> someone was frustrated by being unable to use a certain set of u4 midis with a specific hardware midi synth. His ultimate solution was to produce ogg files himself.
[01:19:28] <Darrenor64> I haven't used scummvm, and it's been a while since I used exult. I'll definitely have to check those out to see what they do and how they do it.
[01:20:33] <Kirben> There is a control panel available to change the default MIDI device in Windows Vista+ too.
[01:20:49] <Kirben> Just search for 'PLWMidiMap.cpl'.
[01:21:37] <Kirben> I would stick to digital for music default on Windows though, MIDI play back can be too variable.
[01:22:17] <Darrenor64> There are other things I should do first though -- like the remodelling, and interface abstraction.
[01:22:22] <Darrenor64> What are your thoughts on the it files?
[01:22:32] <Darrenor64> They are consistent, at least.
[01:23:00] <Kirben> They seem the best option at the moment.
[01:24:41] <Darrenor64> I'm also tempted to include SID libraries if people want the c64 sound.
[01:26:09] <Kirben> People could also offer alternative digital music packs.
[01:26:12] <Darrenor64> Re: PLWMidiMap.cpl -- nice. Good resource.
[01:27:04] <Kirben> Would be good to have a ditigal music pack based off original files on Roland MT32.
[01:27:27] <Darrenor64> Admittedly, I was pretty excited to be able to enumerate over system midi devices and select in-code. I don't anticipate the patch will be integrated in a hurry.
[01:29:14] <Darrenor64> Agreed.
[01:30:45] <Darrenor64> Outside of media, do you see any issues that should be priorities?
[01:32:46] <Kirben> No issue I know of, the forums were rather quiet before they went offline.
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